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So I was turned around from Heathrow airport in 2012 after customs stopped me and asked me what my plans were in London. I told them I was there to Dj...they then asked me if I was making any money. Not thinking anything of it I said I was and they asked how much. I told them $500...which wasn’t even true, I didn’t know if I was making any money or not. They then brought me to a holding room and asked me a bunch of questions and eventually they told me they didn’t believe me about not making money and sent me back to US. Now fast forward 7 years my wife has bought us tickets to Heathrow for May. And now I am of course kind of freaking out because I have a stamp in my passport with an X over it. Please help me with any info you guys may have!










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    What are your plans for the new trip? Are you a US citizen?

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    If you show up at Heathrow it is likely that you'll be questioned at some length. If you are as unprepared as you were before you can probably expect to be bounced back where you came from. Much of this grief can be avoided by applying for a visa before you leave the US. Make a good job of it. Document every reason why things are different, why you won't work (or need to work) and why you will leave. If you get your visa, bring all your supporting documentation with you and expect to have to defend it at the airport.

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    @ReddHerring That's an answer.

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    @henning vacation I am a us citizen. redherring what important documents? Do you think it would be ok without the visa and just pass with going as a tourist. Do you think they have me as a red flag? Thanks guys

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    I am not working at all, so why get the visa? Then have to explain why I do have a visa but to not work, you know? @redherring

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So I was turned around from Heathrow airport in 2012 after customs stopped me and asked me what my plans were in London. I told them I was there to Dj...they then asked me if I was making any money. Not thinking anything of it I said I was and they asked how much. I told them $500...which wasn’t even true, I didn’t know if I was making any money or not. They then brought me to a holding room and asked me a bunch of questions and eventually they told me they didn’t believe me about not making money and sent me back to US. Now fast forward 7 years my wife has bought us tickets to Heathrow for May. And now I am of course kind of freaking out because I have a stamp in my passport with an X over it. Please help me with any info you guys may have!










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    What are your plans for the new trip? Are you a US citizen?

    – Henning Makholm
    6 hours ago








  • 4





    If you show up at Heathrow it is likely that you'll be questioned at some length. If you are as unprepared as you were before you can probably expect to be bounced back where you came from. Much of this grief can be avoided by applying for a visa before you leave the US. Make a good job of it. Document every reason why things are different, why you won't work (or need to work) and why you will leave. If you get your visa, bring all your supporting documentation with you and expect to have to defend it at the airport.

    – Redd Herring
    4 hours ago








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    @ReddHerring That's an answer.

    – Anish Sheela
    4 hours ago






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    @henning vacation I am a us citizen. redherring what important documents? Do you think it would be ok without the visa and just pass with going as a tourist. Do you think they have me as a red flag? Thanks guys

    – Raul Peña
    3 hours ago








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    I am not working at all, so why get the visa? Then have to explain why I do have a visa but to not work, you know? @redherring

    – Raul Peña
    3 hours ago
















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So I was turned around from Heathrow airport in 2012 after customs stopped me and asked me what my plans were in London. I told them I was there to Dj...they then asked me if I was making any money. Not thinking anything of it I said I was and they asked how much. I told them $500...which wasn’t even true, I didn’t know if I was making any money or not. They then brought me to a holding room and asked me a bunch of questions and eventually they told me they didn’t believe me about not making money and sent me back to US. Now fast forward 7 years my wife has bought us tickets to Heathrow for May. And now I am of course kind of freaking out because I have a stamp in my passport with an X over it. Please help me with any info you guys may have!










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So I was turned around from Heathrow airport in 2012 after customs stopped me and asked me what my plans were in London. I told them I was there to Dj...they then asked me if I was making any money. Not thinking anything of it I said I was and they asked how much. I told them $500...which wasn’t even true, I didn’t know if I was making any money or not. They then brought me to a holding room and asked me a bunch of questions and eventually they told me they didn’t believe me about not making money and sent me back to US. Now fast forward 7 years my wife has bought us tickets to Heathrow for May. And now I am of course kind of freaking out because I have a stamp in my passport with an X over it. Please help me with any info you guys may have!







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  • 1





    What are your plans for the new trip? Are you a US citizen?

    – Henning Makholm
    6 hours ago








  • 4





    If you show up at Heathrow it is likely that you'll be questioned at some length. If you are as unprepared as you were before you can probably expect to be bounced back where you came from. Much of this grief can be avoided by applying for a visa before you leave the US. Make a good job of it. Document every reason why things are different, why you won't work (or need to work) and why you will leave. If you get your visa, bring all your supporting documentation with you and expect to have to defend it at the airport.

    – Redd Herring
    4 hours ago








  • 1





    @ReddHerring That's an answer.

    – Anish Sheela
    4 hours ago






  • 1





    @henning vacation I am a us citizen. redherring what important documents? Do you think it would be ok without the visa and just pass with going as a tourist. Do you think they have me as a red flag? Thanks guys

    – Raul Peña
    3 hours ago








  • 1





    I am not working at all, so why get the visa? Then have to explain why I do have a visa but to not work, you know? @redherring

    – Raul Peña
    3 hours ago
















  • 1





    What are your plans for the new trip? Are you a US citizen?

    – Henning Makholm
    6 hours ago








  • 4





    If you show up at Heathrow it is likely that you'll be questioned at some length. If you are as unprepared as you were before you can probably expect to be bounced back where you came from. Much of this grief can be avoided by applying for a visa before you leave the US. Make a good job of it. Document every reason why things are different, why you won't work (or need to work) and why you will leave. If you get your visa, bring all your supporting documentation with you and expect to have to defend it at the airport.

    – Redd Herring
    4 hours ago








  • 1





    @ReddHerring That's an answer.

    – Anish Sheela
    4 hours ago






  • 1





    @henning vacation I am a us citizen. redherring what important documents? Do you think it would be ok without the visa and just pass with going as a tourist. Do you think they have me as a red flag? Thanks guys

    – Raul Peña
    3 hours ago








  • 1





    I am not working at all, so why get the visa? Then have to explain why I do have a visa but to not work, you know? @redherring

    – Raul Peña
    3 hours ago










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What are your plans for the new trip? Are you a US citizen?

– Henning Makholm
6 hours ago







What are your plans for the new trip? Are you a US citizen?

– Henning Makholm
6 hours ago






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4





If you show up at Heathrow it is likely that you'll be questioned at some length. If you are as unprepared as you were before you can probably expect to be bounced back where you came from. Much of this grief can be avoided by applying for a visa before you leave the US. Make a good job of it. Document every reason why things are different, why you won't work (or need to work) and why you will leave. If you get your visa, bring all your supporting documentation with you and expect to have to defend it at the airport.

– Redd Herring
4 hours ago







If you show up at Heathrow it is likely that you'll be questioned at some length. If you are as unprepared as you were before you can probably expect to be bounced back where you came from. Much of this grief can be avoided by applying for a visa before you leave the US. Make a good job of it. Document every reason why things are different, why you won't work (or need to work) and why you will leave. If you get your visa, bring all your supporting documentation with you and expect to have to defend it at the airport.

– Redd Herring
4 hours ago






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1





@ReddHerring That's an answer.

– Anish Sheela
4 hours ago





@ReddHerring That's an answer.

– Anish Sheela
4 hours ago




1




1





@henning vacation I am a us citizen. redherring what important documents? Do you think it would be ok without the visa and just pass with going as a tourist. Do you think they have me as a red flag? Thanks guys

– Raul Peña
3 hours ago







@henning vacation I am a us citizen. redherring what important documents? Do you think it would be ok without the visa and just pass with going as a tourist. Do you think they have me as a red flag? Thanks guys

– Raul Peña
3 hours ago






1




1





I am not working at all, so why get the visa? Then have to explain why I do have a visa but to not work, you know? @redherring

– Raul Peña
3 hours ago







I am not working at all, so why get the visa? Then have to explain why I do have a visa but to not work, you know? @redherring

– Raul Peña
3 hours ago












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Seven years ago you presented yourself at Heathrow as a US citizen and requested visa-free entry. Visa-free entry requires that you don't work, and that you do not apply for public funds. It also assumes that you will leave the UK within a reasonable period of time.



When questioned you announced your intention to work, and to earn money for it. Since this breaches the terms under which you would be admitted, you were denied entry.



Now, you're proposing to arrive at Heathrow and request entry a second time. Immigration computers have long memories and the border guard will know about a prior refusal. You will be questioned, perhaps at length. If you try and lie your way through you'll be denied a second time and you can forget visiting the UK for a long time.



You need to persuade the border guards that you will comply with the terms of visa-free entry, and with your previous refusal you can expect them to be skeptical about any claims you make.



You should document links to the US, focussing on anything that requires your presence there, to show that you have reason to leave the UK. You should document your income and savings to show that you can afford your visit. And you need a convincing explanation for why things are different this time and you aren't going to work.



You could just show up at Heathrow with all this documentation and try to persuade the border guards to let you in. It can be done, but you could be detained for some hours.



Or, you can apply for a Visitor's visa before you leave the US. If you get the visa, great! If you don't, you avoid the questions and pain at Heathrow. And if the UK border guards ask why you have a visa, just explain about the prior refusal and that you wanted to be sure you'd be allowed to enter.






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    Seven years ago you presented yourself at Heathrow as a US citizen and requested visa-free entry. Visa-free entry requires that you don't work, and that you do not apply for public funds. It also assumes that you will leave the UK within a reasonable period of time.



    When questioned you announced your intention to work, and to earn money for it. Since this breaches the terms under which you would be admitted, you were denied entry.



    Now, you're proposing to arrive at Heathrow and request entry a second time. Immigration computers have long memories and the border guard will know about a prior refusal. You will be questioned, perhaps at length. If you try and lie your way through you'll be denied a second time and you can forget visiting the UK for a long time.



    You need to persuade the border guards that you will comply with the terms of visa-free entry, and with your previous refusal you can expect them to be skeptical about any claims you make.



    You should document links to the US, focussing on anything that requires your presence there, to show that you have reason to leave the UK. You should document your income and savings to show that you can afford your visit. And you need a convincing explanation for why things are different this time and you aren't going to work.



    You could just show up at Heathrow with all this documentation and try to persuade the border guards to let you in. It can be done, but you could be detained for some hours.



    Or, you can apply for a Visitor's visa before you leave the US. If you get the visa, great! If you don't, you avoid the questions and pain at Heathrow. And if the UK border guards ask why you have a visa, just explain about the prior refusal and that you wanted to be sure you'd be allowed to enter.






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      Seven years ago you presented yourself at Heathrow as a US citizen and requested visa-free entry. Visa-free entry requires that you don't work, and that you do not apply for public funds. It also assumes that you will leave the UK within a reasonable period of time.



      When questioned you announced your intention to work, and to earn money for it. Since this breaches the terms under which you would be admitted, you were denied entry.



      Now, you're proposing to arrive at Heathrow and request entry a second time. Immigration computers have long memories and the border guard will know about a prior refusal. You will be questioned, perhaps at length. If you try and lie your way through you'll be denied a second time and you can forget visiting the UK for a long time.



      You need to persuade the border guards that you will comply with the terms of visa-free entry, and with your previous refusal you can expect them to be skeptical about any claims you make.



      You should document links to the US, focussing on anything that requires your presence there, to show that you have reason to leave the UK. You should document your income and savings to show that you can afford your visit. And you need a convincing explanation for why things are different this time and you aren't going to work.



      You could just show up at Heathrow with all this documentation and try to persuade the border guards to let you in. It can be done, but you could be detained for some hours.



      Or, you can apply for a Visitor's visa before you leave the US. If you get the visa, great! If you don't, you avoid the questions and pain at Heathrow. And if the UK border guards ask why you have a visa, just explain about the prior refusal and that you wanted to be sure you'd be allowed to enter.






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        Seven years ago you presented yourself at Heathrow as a US citizen and requested visa-free entry. Visa-free entry requires that you don't work, and that you do not apply for public funds. It also assumes that you will leave the UK within a reasonable period of time.



        When questioned you announced your intention to work, and to earn money for it. Since this breaches the terms under which you would be admitted, you were denied entry.



        Now, you're proposing to arrive at Heathrow and request entry a second time. Immigration computers have long memories and the border guard will know about a prior refusal. You will be questioned, perhaps at length. If you try and lie your way through you'll be denied a second time and you can forget visiting the UK for a long time.



        You need to persuade the border guards that you will comply with the terms of visa-free entry, and with your previous refusal you can expect them to be skeptical about any claims you make.



        You should document links to the US, focussing on anything that requires your presence there, to show that you have reason to leave the UK. You should document your income and savings to show that you can afford your visit. And you need a convincing explanation for why things are different this time and you aren't going to work.



        You could just show up at Heathrow with all this documentation and try to persuade the border guards to let you in. It can be done, but you could be detained for some hours.



        Or, you can apply for a Visitor's visa before you leave the US. If you get the visa, great! If you don't, you avoid the questions and pain at Heathrow. And if the UK border guards ask why you have a visa, just explain about the prior refusal and that you wanted to be sure you'd be allowed to enter.






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        Seven years ago you presented yourself at Heathrow as a US citizen and requested visa-free entry. Visa-free entry requires that you don't work, and that you do not apply for public funds. It also assumes that you will leave the UK within a reasonable period of time.



        When questioned you announced your intention to work, and to earn money for it. Since this breaches the terms under which you would be admitted, you were denied entry.



        Now, you're proposing to arrive at Heathrow and request entry a second time. Immigration computers have long memories and the border guard will know about a prior refusal. You will be questioned, perhaps at length. If you try and lie your way through you'll be denied a second time and you can forget visiting the UK for a long time.



        You need to persuade the border guards that you will comply with the terms of visa-free entry, and with your previous refusal you can expect them to be skeptical about any claims you make.



        You should document links to the US, focussing on anything that requires your presence there, to show that you have reason to leave the UK. You should document your income and savings to show that you can afford your visit. And you need a convincing explanation for why things are different this time and you aren't going to work.



        You could just show up at Heathrow with all this documentation and try to persuade the border guards to let you in. It can be done, but you could be detained for some hours.



        Or, you can apply for a Visitor's visa before you leave the US. If you get the visa, great! If you don't, you avoid the questions and pain at Heathrow. And if the UK border guards ask why you have a visa, just explain about the prior refusal and that you wanted to be sure you'd be allowed to enter.







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