“Beeping” out the US president's speech? Why?
For context, I'm from Europe (Berlin, Germany).
It really bends my mind when speeches of the president are cleaned up in TV.
I understand the bleeping is defined for TV specifically, even if used elsewhere.
So, ok, reporting the presidents speech verbatim would breach a contract, right?
What the fuck?
Don't tell me the cable TV stations "beep" the president because they are afraid to be sued by the president when they did not? Sorry, this paragraph is pure sarcasm. But I'm actually not absolutely sure that is not realistic.
I follow US news closely, and can accept a lot to be true. But this confuses me.
Note this is actually not a rant - it literally confuses me.
Let me give an example: The removal of expletives can change the meaning of what is said severely.
In a speech referring to a set of African countries, there could be the section
[...] these "beep" countries.
That could typically interpreted as
[...] these fucking countries.
if the actual text
[...] these shit hole countries.
Here, the first variant can be interpreted as strong emphasis, while the actual text could be interpreted as an insult. Also, it can be interpreted as a very strong insult.
I think the meaning is fundamentally changed here. So much so that it is of political relevance. Especially of relevance to international relations.
This is an extreme example, but it should prove that relevant distortion of the meaning of what the president says.
word-usage pejorative-language offensive-language speech figures-of-speech
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For context, I'm from Europe (Berlin, Germany).
It really bends my mind when speeches of the president are cleaned up in TV.
I understand the bleeping is defined for TV specifically, even if used elsewhere.
So, ok, reporting the presidents speech verbatim would breach a contract, right?
What the fuck?
Don't tell me the cable TV stations "beep" the president because they are afraid to be sued by the president when they did not? Sorry, this paragraph is pure sarcasm. But I'm actually not absolutely sure that is not realistic.
I follow US news closely, and can accept a lot to be true. But this confuses me.
Note this is actually not a rant - it literally confuses me.
Let me give an example: The removal of expletives can change the meaning of what is said severely.
In a speech referring to a set of African countries, there could be the section
[...] these "beep" countries.
That could typically interpreted as
[...] these fucking countries.
if the actual text
[...] these shit hole countries.
Here, the first variant can be interpreted as strong emphasis, while the actual text could be interpreted as an insult. Also, it can be interpreted as a very strong insult.
I think the meaning is fundamentally changed here. So much so that it is of political relevance. Especially of relevance to international relations.
This is an extreme example, but it should prove that relevant distortion of the meaning of what the president says.
word-usage pejorative-language offensive-language speech figures-of-speech
edited 11 mins ago
sumelic
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asked 44 mins ago
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TV stations are legally bound (or have an internal policy) to bleep out swear words at certain times of the day. The same is true of radio stations. It doesn't matter what the source is.
– Jason Bassford
36 mins ago
Why would reporting the presidents speech verbatim breach a contract?
– James Random
34 mins ago
@JasonBassford Yes, I'm aware of that. But to me, reporting the speech of the president seems to be of more priority - even if not formally so.
– Volker Siegel
34 mins ago
@JamesRandom It is regulated by the FCC. There where various court cases related to "fleeting expletives".
– Volker Siegel
12 mins ago
@VolkerSiegel Are you asking a question about the English language or about the the law and politics of media? If you're asking a question about the English language, what is it? Note that if something is bleeped out, there is no way of knowing what was said. All you can do is assume that something was said . . .
– Jason Bassford
4 mins ago
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For context, I'm from Europe (Berlin, Germany).
It really bends my mind when speeches of the president are cleaned up in TV.
I understand the bleeping is defined for TV specifically, even if used elsewhere.
So, ok, reporting the presidents speech verbatim would breach a contract, right?
What the fuck?
Don't tell me the cable TV stations "beep" the president because they are afraid to be sued by the president when they did not? Sorry, this paragraph is pure sarcasm. But I'm actually not absolutely sure that is not realistic.
I follow US news closely, and can accept a lot to be true. But this confuses me.
Note this is actually not a rant - it literally confuses me.
Let me give an example: The removal of expletives can change the meaning of what is said severely.
In a speech referring to a set of African countries, there could be the section
[...] these "beep" countries.
That could typically interpreted as
[...] these fucking countries.
if the actual text
[...] these shit hole countries.
Here, the first variant can be interpreted as strong emphasis, while the actual text could be interpreted as an insult. Also, it can be interpreted as a very strong insult.
I think the meaning is fundamentally changed here. So much so that it is of political relevance. Especially of relevance to international relations.
This is an extreme example, but it should prove that relevant distortion of the meaning of what the president says.
word-usage pejorative-language offensive-language speech figures-of-speech
edited 11 mins ago
sumelic
49.3k8116223
asked 44 mins ago
Volker SiegelVolker Siegel
471415
For context, I'm from Europe (Berlin, Germany).
It really bends my mind when speeches of the president are cleaned up in TV.
I understand the bleeping is defined for TV specifically, even if used elsewhere.
So, ok, reporting the presidents speech verbatim would breach a contract, right?
What the fuck?
Don't tell me the cable TV stations "beep" the president because they are afraid to be sued by the president when they did not? Sorry, this paragraph is pure sarcasm. But I'm actually not absolutely sure that is not realistic.
I follow US news closely, and can accept a lot to be true. But this confuses me.
Note this is actually not a rant - it literally confuses me.
Let me give an example: The removal of expletives can change the meaning of what is said severely.
In a speech referring to a set of African countries, there could be the section
[...] these "beep" countries.
That could typically interpreted as
[...] these fucking countries.
if the actual text
[...] these shit hole countries.
Here, the first variant can be interpreted as strong emphasis, while the actual text could be interpreted as an insult. Also, it can be interpreted as a very strong insult.
I think the meaning is fundamentally changed here. So much so that it is of political relevance. Especially of relevance to international relations.
This is an extreme example, but it should prove that relevant distortion of the meaning of what the president says.
word-usage pejorative-language offensive-language speech figures-of-speech
word-usage pejorative-language offensive-language speech figures-of-speech
edited 11 mins ago
sumelic
49.3k8116223
asked 44 mins ago
Volker SiegelVolker Siegel
471415
edited 11 mins ago
sumelic
49.3k8116223
asked 44 mins ago
Volker SiegelVolker Siegel
471415
edited 11 mins ago
sumelic
49.3k8116223
edited 11 mins ago
sumelic
49.3k8116223
edited 11 mins ago
sumelic
49.3k8116223
49.3k8116223
asked 44 mins ago
Volker SiegelVolker Siegel
471415
asked 44 mins ago
Volker SiegelVolker Siegel
471415
asked 44 mins ago
Volker SiegelVolker Siegel
471415
471415
TV stations are legally bound (or have an internal policy) to bleep out swear words at certain times of the day. The same is true of radio stations. It doesn't matter what the source is.
– Jason Bassford
36 mins ago
Why would reporting the presidents speech verbatim breach a contract?
– James Random
34 mins ago
@JasonBassford Yes, I'm aware of that. But to me, reporting the speech of the president seems to be of more priority - even if not formally so.
– Volker Siegel
34 mins ago
@JamesRandom It is regulated by the FCC. There where various court cases related to "fleeting expletives".
– Volker Siegel
12 mins ago
@VolkerSiegel Are you asking a question about the English language or about the the law and politics of media? If you're asking a question about the English language, what is it? Note that if something is bleeped out, there is no way of knowing what was said. All you can do is assume that something was said . . .
– Jason Bassford
4 mins ago
add a comment |
TV stations are legally bound (or have an internal policy) to bleep out swear words at certain times of the day. The same is true of radio stations. It doesn't matter what the source is.
– Jason Bassford
36 mins ago
Why would reporting the presidents speech verbatim breach a contract?
– James Random
34 mins ago
@JasonBassford Yes, I'm aware of that. But to me, reporting the speech of the president seems to be of more priority - even if not formally so.
– Volker Siegel
34 mins ago
@JamesRandom It is regulated by the FCC. There where various court cases related to "fleeting expletives".
– Volker Siegel
12 mins ago
@VolkerSiegel Are you asking a question about the English language or about the the law and politics of media? If you're asking a question about the English language, what is it? Note that if something is bleeped out, there is no way of knowing what was said. All you can do is assume that something was said . . .
– Jason Bassford
4 mins ago
TV stations are legally bound (or have an internal policy) to bleep out swear words at certain times of the day. The same is true of radio stations. It doesn't matter what the source is.
– Jason Bassford
36 mins ago
TV stations are legally bound (or have an internal policy) to bleep out swear words at certain times of the day. The same is true of radio stations. It doesn't matter what the source is.
– Jason Bassford
36 mins ago
Why would reporting the presidents speech verbatim breach a contract?
– James Random
34 mins ago
Why would reporting the presidents speech verbatim breach a contract?
– James Random
34 mins ago
@JasonBassford Yes, I'm aware of that. But to me, reporting the speech of the president seems to be of more priority - even if not formally so.
– Volker Siegel
34 mins ago
@JasonBassford Yes, I'm aware of that. But to me, reporting the speech of the president seems to be of more priority - even if not formally so.
– Volker Siegel
34 mins ago
@JamesRandom It is regulated by the FCC. There where various court cases related to "fleeting expletives".
– Volker Siegel
12 mins ago
@JamesRandom It is regulated by the FCC. There where various court cases related to "fleeting expletives".
– Volker Siegel
12 mins ago
@VolkerSiegel Are you asking a question about the English language or about the the law and politics of media? If you're asking a question about the English language, what is it? Note that if something is bleeped out, there is no way of knowing what was said. All you can do is assume that something was said . . .
– Jason Bassford
4 mins ago
@VolkerSiegel Are you asking a question about the English language or about the the law and politics of media? If you're asking a question about the English language, what is it? Note that if something is bleeped out, there is no way of knowing what was said. All you can do is assume that something was said . . .
– Jason Bassford
4 mins ago
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TV stations are legally bound (or have an internal policy) to bleep out swear words at certain times of the day. The same is true of radio stations. It doesn't matter what the source is.
– Jason Bassford
36 mins ago
Why would reporting the presidents speech verbatim breach a contract?
– James Random
34 mins ago
@JasonBassford Yes, I'm aware of that. But to me, reporting the speech of the president seems to be of more priority - even if not formally so.
– Volker Siegel
34 mins ago
@JamesRandom It is regulated by the FCC. There where various court cases related to "fleeting expletives".
– Volker Siegel
12 mins ago
@VolkerSiegel Are you asking a question about the English language or about the the law and politics of media? If you're asking a question about the English language, what is it? Note that if something is bleeped out, there is no way of knowing what was said. All you can do is assume that something was said . . .
– Jason Bassford
4 mins ago