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From running help . or help source




Execute commands from a file in the current shell.



Read and execute commands from FILENAME in the current shell. The
entries in $PATH are used to find the directory containing FILENAME.




From my point of view, it seems like the dot command (or the source command) is simply running a shell script in the current shell context (instead of spawning another shell).



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    why should it? when making a question like this, it would help if you explain why you find the behavior surprising. Otherwise, the same could be asked: why aren't C source file executables? etc.

    – Uncle Billy
    9 hours ago











  • This behavior is surprising to me because normally running a shell script as in ./ script requires the script to be executable.

    – Tran Triet
    9 hours ago











  • @UncleBilly So that you don't accidentally type . ~/.bash_history instead of . ~/.bash_profile, for example? twitter.com/munificentbob/status/1091220194020622336

    – Joker_vD
    7 hours ago
















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From running help . or help source




Execute commands from a file in the current shell.



Read and execute commands from FILENAME in the current shell. The
entries in $PATH are used to find the directory containing FILENAME.




From my point of view, it seems like the dot command (or the source command) is simply running a shell script in the current shell context (instead of spawning another shell).



Question: why doesn't . (or source) requires the file to be executable like when you run a normal script?










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    why should it? when making a question like this, it would help if you explain why you find the behavior surprising. Otherwise, the same could be asked: why aren't C source file executables? etc.

    – Uncle Billy
    9 hours ago











  • This behavior is surprising to me because normally running a shell script as in ./ script requires the script to be executable.

    – Tran Triet
    9 hours ago











  • @UncleBilly So that you don't accidentally type . ~/.bash_history instead of . ~/.bash_profile, for example? twitter.com/munificentbob/status/1091220194020622336

    – Joker_vD
    7 hours ago














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From running help . or help source




Execute commands from a file in the current shell.



Read and execute commands from FILENAME in the current shell. The
entries in $PATH are used to find the directory containing FILENAME.




From my point of view, it seems like the dot command (or the source command) is simply running a shell script in the current shell context (instead of spawning another shell).



Question: why doesn't . (or source) requires the file to be executable like when you run a normal script?










share|improve this question














From running help . or help source




Execute commands from a file in the current shell.



Read and execute commands from FILENAME in the current shell. The
entries in $PATH are used to find the directory containing FILENAME.




From my point of view, it seems like the dot command (or the source command) is simply running a shell script in the current shell context (instead of spawning another shell).



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    why should it? when making a question like this, it would help if you explain why you find the behavior surprising. Otherwise, the same could be asked: why aren't C source file executables? etc.

    – Uncle Billy
    9 hours ago











  • This behavior is surprising to me because normally running a shell script as in ./ script requires the script to be executable.

    – Tran Triet
    9 hours ago











  • @UncleBilly So that you don't accidentally type . ~/.bash_history instead of . ~/.bash_profile, for example? twitter.com/munificentbob/status/1091220194020622336

    – Joker_vD
    7 hours ago














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    why should it? when making a question like this, it would help if you explain why you find the behavior surprising. Otherwise, the same could be asked: why aren't C source file executables? etc.

    – Uncle Billy
    9 hours ago











  • This behavior is surprising to me because normally running a shell script as in ./ script requires the script to be executable.

    – Tran Triet
    9 hours ago











  • @UncleBilly So that you don't accidentally type . ~/.bash_history instead of . ~/.bash_profile, for example? twitter.com/munificentbob/status/1091220194020622336

    – Joker_vD
    7 hours ago








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why should it? when making a question like this, it would help if you explain why you find the behavior surprising. Otherwise, the same could be asked: why aren't C source file executables? etc.

– Uncle Billy
9 hours ago





why should it? when making a question like this, it would help if you explain why you find the behavior surprising. Otherwise, the same could be asked: why aren't C source file executables? etc.

– Uncle Billy
9 hours ago













This behavior is surprising to me because normally running a shell script as in ./ script requires the script to be executable.

– Tran Triet
9 hours ago





This behavior is surprising to me because normally running a shell script as in ./ script requires the script to be executable.

– Tran Triet
9 hours ago













@UncleBilly So that you don't accidentally type . ~/.bash_history instead of . ~/.bash_profile, for example? twitter.com/munificentbob/status/1091220194020622336

– Joker_vD
7 hours ago





@UncleBilly So that you don't accidentally type . ~/.bash_history instead of . ~/.bash_profile, for example? twitter.com/munificentbob/status/1091220194020622336

– Joker_vD
7 hours ago










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Lets say I have a shell script (my-script.sh)starting with:



#!/bin/sh


If the script has execute permissions set then I can run the script with:



./my-script.sh


In this case you are ultimately asking the kernel to run my-script.sh as a program, and the kernel (program loader) will check permissions first, and then use /bin/sh ./my-script.sh to actually execute your script.



But the shell (/bin/sh) does not care about execute permissions and doesn't check them. So if you call this ...



/bin/sh ./my-script.sh


... The kernel is never asked to run my-script.sh as a program. The kernel (program loader) is only asked to run /bin/sh. So the execute permissions will never me checked. That is, you don't need execute permission to run a script like this.





To answer your question:



The difference between you calling ./my-script.sh and . ./my-script.sh inside another script is exactly the same. In the first, you are asking the kernel to run it as a program, in the second, you are asking your current shell to read commands from the script and the shell doesn't need (or care about) execute permissions to do this.





Further reading:



Running scripts as programs is surprising behaviour when you think about it. They are not written in machine code. I would read up on why this works; start with reading up on the shebang (#!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_(Unix)



Running scripts with the dot notation is necessary to share variables. All other mechanisms for running start a new shell "context", meaning that any variables set in the called script will not be passed back to the calling script. Bash documentation is a little lite, but it's here: https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Bourne-Shell-Builtins.html






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    When sourced, then $0 is your bash. If the script is executed, then $0 is ./my-script.sh.

    – Freddy
    10 hours ago











  • Thank you very much. Your answer surprises me by the fact that I could run /bin/bash non-executable-file.

    – Tran Triet
    10 hours ago






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    @Philip Couling When sourced with source my-script.sh or . my-script.sh.

    – Freddy
    10 hours ago











  • @Freddy much clearer. Thanks.

    – Philip Couling
    10 hours ago






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    @TranTriet Also be aware that running a script with bash ./my-script.sh or . ./my-script.sh, the shebang (#!/bin/sh) will be completely ignored. This can be a problem when crossing between different shells.

    – Philip Couling
    10 hours ago





















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When you say source script.sh or . script.sh you are never executing the script. What you are running is a shell command source which does something. This "something" includes reading from script.sh and executing what-has-been-read. Your script needs to be readable for this. No need for executability.



The behaviour is similar to running bash non-executable-script.sh or python non-executable-script.py etc.






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    Lets say I have a shell script (my-script.sh)starting with:



    #!/bin/sh


    If the script has execute permissions set then I can run the script with:



    ./my-script.sh


    In this case you are ultimately asking the kernel to run my-script.sh as a program, and the kernel (program loader) will check permissions first, and then use /bin/sh ./my-script.sh to actually execute your script.



    But the shell (/bin/sh) does not care about execute permissions and doesn't check them. So if you call this ...



    /bin/sh ./my-script.sh


    ... The kernel is never asked to run my-script.sh as a program. The kernel (program loader) is only asked to run /bin/sh. So the execute permissions will never me checked. That is, you don't need execute permission to run a script like this.





    To answer your question:



    The difference between you calling ./my-script.sh and . ./my-script.sh inside another script is exactly the same. In the first, you are asking the kernel to run it as a program, in the second, you are asking your current shell to read commands from the script and the shell doesn't need (or care about) execute permissions to do this.





    Further reading:



    Running scripts as programs is surprising behaviour when you think about it. They are not written in machine code. I would read up on why this works; start with reading up on the shebang (#!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_(Unix)



    Running scripts with the dot notation is necessary to share variables. All other mechanisms for running start a new shell "context", meaning that any variables set in the called script will not be passed back to the calling script. Bash documentation is a little lite, but it's here: https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Bourne-Shell-Builtins.html






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      When sourced, then $0 is your bash. If the script is executed, then $0 is ./my-script.sh.

      – Freddy
      10 hours ago











    • Thank you very much. Your answer surprises me by the fact that I could run /bin/bash non-executable-file.

      – Tran Triet
      10 hours ago






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      @Philip Couling When sourced with source my-script.sh or . my-script.sh.

      – Freddy
      10 hours ago











    • @Freddy much clearer. Thanks.

      – Philip Couling
      10 hours ago






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      @TranTriet Also be aware that running a script with bash ./my-script.sh or . ./my-script.sh, the shebang (#!/bin/sh) will be completely ignored. This can be a problem when crossing between different shells.

      – Philip Couling
      10 hours ago


















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    Lets say I have a shell script (my-script.sh)starting with:



    #!/bin/sh


    If the script has execute permissions set then I can run the script with:



    ./my-script.sh


    In this case you are ultimately asking the kernel to run my-script.sh as a program, and the kernel (program loader) will check permissions first, and then use /bin/sh ./my-script.sh to actually execute your script.



    But the shell (/bin/sh) does not care about execute permissions and doesn't check them. So if you call this ...



    /bin/sh ./my-script.sh


    ... The kernel is never asked to run my-script.sh as a program. The kernel (program loader) is only asked to run /bin/sh. So the execute permissions will never me checked. That is, you don't need execute permission to run a script like this.





    To answer your question:



    The difference between you calling ./my-script.sh and . ./my-script.sh inside another script is exactly the same. In the first, you are asking the kernel to run it as a program, in the second, you are asking your current shell to read commands from the script and the shell doesn't need (or care about) execute permissions to do this.





    Further reading:



    Running scripts as programs is surprising behaviour when you think about it. They are not written in machine code. I would read up on why this works; start with reading up on the shebang (#!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_(Unix)



    Running scripts with the dot notation is necessary to share variables. All other mechanisms for running start a new shell "context", meaning that any variables set in the called script will not be passed back to the calling script. Bash documentation is a little lite, but it's here: https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Bourne-Shell-Builtins.html






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      When sourced, then $0 is your bash. If the script is executed, then $0 is ./my-script.sh.

      – Freddy
      10 hours ago











    • Thank you very much. Your answer surprises me by the fact that I could run /bin/bash non-executable-file.

      – Tran Triet
      10 hours ago






    • 1





      @Philip Couling When sourced with source my-script.sh or . my-script.sh.

      – Freddy
      10 hours ago











    • @Freddy much clearer. Thanks.

      – Philip Couling
      10 hours ago






    • 2





      @TranTriet Also be aware that running a script with bash ./my-script.sh or . ./my-script.sh, the shebang (#!/bin/sh) will be completely ignored. This can be a problem when crossing between different shells.

      – Philip Couling
      10 hours ago
















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    Lets say I have a shell script (my-script.sh)starting with:



    #!/bin/sh


    If the script has execute permissions set then I can run the script with:



    ./my-script.sh


    In this case you are ultimately asking the kernel to run my-script.sh as a program, and the kernel (program loader) will check permissions first, and then use /bin/sh ./my-script.sh to actually execute your script.



    But the shell (/bin/sh) does not care about execute permissions and doesn't check them. So if you call this ...



    /bin/sh ./my-script.sh


    ... The kernel is never asked to run my-script.sh as a program. The kernel (program loader) is only asked to run /bin/sh. So the execute permissions will never me checked. That is, you don't need execute permission to run a script like this.





    To answer your question:



    The difference between you calling ./my-script.sh and . ./my-script.sh inside another script is exactly the same. In the first, you are asking the kernel to run it as a program, in the second, you are asking your current shell to read commands from the script and the shell doesn't need (or care about) execute permissions to do this.





    Further reading:



    Running scripts as programs is surprising behaviour when you think about it. They are not written in machine code. I would read up on why this works; start with reading up on the shebang (#!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_(Unix)



    Running scripts with the dot notation is necessary to share variables. All other mechanisms for running start a new shell "context", meaning that any variables set in the called script will not be passed back to the calling script. Bash documentation is a little lite, but it's here: https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Bourne-Shell-Builtins.html






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    Lets say I have a shell script (my-script.sh)starting with:



    #!/bin/sh


    If the script has execute permissions set then I can run the script with:



    ./my-script.sh


    In this case you are ultimately asking the kernel to run my-script.sh as a program, and the kernel (program loader) will check permissions first, and then use /bin/sh ./my-script.sh to actually execute your script.



    But the shell (/bin/sh) does not care about execute permissions and doesn't check them. So if you call this ...



    /bin/sh ./my-script.sh


    ... The kernel is never asked to run my-script.sh as a program. The kernel (program loader) is only asked to run /bin/sh. So the execute permissions will never me checked. That is, you don't need execute permission to run a script like this.





    To answer your question:



    The difference between you calling ./my-script.sh and . ./my-script.sh inside another script is exactly the same. In the first, you are asking the kernel to run it as a program, in the second, you are asking your current shell to read commands from the script and the shell doesn't need (or care about) execute permissions to do this.





    Further reading:



    Running scripts as programs is surprising behaviour when you think about it. They are not written in machine code. I would read up on why this works; start with reading up on the shebang (#!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_(Unix)



    Running scripts with the dot notation is necessary to share variables. All other mechanisms for running start a new shell "context", meaning that any variables set in the called script will not be passed back to the calling script. Bash documentation is a little lite, but it's here: https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Bourne-Shell-Builtins.html







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      When sourced, then $0 is your bash. If the script is executed, then $0 is ./my-script.sh.

      – Freddy
      10 hours ago











    • Thank you very much. Your answer surprises me by the fact that I could run /bin/bash non-executable-file.

      – Tran Triet
      10 hours ago






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      @Philip Couling When sourced with source my-script.sh or . my-script.sh.

      – Freddy
      10 hours ago











    • @Freddy much clearer. Thanks.

      – Philip Couling
      10 hours ago






    • 2





      @TranTriet Also be aware that running a script with bash ./my-script.sh or . ./my-script.sh, the shebang (#!/bin/sh) will be completely ignored. This can be a problem when crossing between different shells.

      – Philip Couling
      10 hours ago
















    • 1





      When sourced, then $0 is your bash. If the script is executed, then $0 is ./my-script.sh.

      – Freddy
      10 hours ago











    • Thank you very much. Your answer surprises me by the fact that I could run /bin/bash non-executable-file.

      – Tran Triet
      10 hours ago






    • 1





      @Philip Couling When sourced with source my-script.sh or . my-script.sh.

      – Freddy
      10 hours ago











    • @Freddy much clearer. Thanks.

      – Philip Couling
      10 hours ago






    • 2





      @TranTriet Also be aware that running a script with bash ./my-script.sh or . ./my-script.sh, the shebang (#!/bin/sh) will be completely ignored. This can be a problem when crossing between different shells.

      – Philip Couling
      10 hours ago










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    When sourced, then $0 is your bash. If the script is executed, then $0 is ./my-script.sh.

    – Freddy
    10 hours ago





    When sourced, then $0 is your bash. If the script is executed, then $0 is ./my-script.sh.

    – Freddy
    10 hours ago













    Thank you very much. Your answer surprises me by the fact that I could run /bin/bash non-executable-file.

    – Tran Triet
    10 hours ago





    Thank you very much. Your answer surprises me by the fact that I could run /bin/bash non-executable-file.

    – Tran Triet
    10 hours ago




    1




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    @Philip Couling When sourced with source my-script.sh or . my-script.sh.

    – Freddy
    10 hours ago





    @Philip Couling When sourced with source my-script.sh or . my-script.sh.

    – Freddy
    10 hours ago













    @Freddy much clearer. Thanks.

    – Philip Couling
    10 hours ago





    @Freddy much clearer. Thanks.

    – Philip Couling
    10 hours ago




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    @TranTriet Also be aware that running a script with bash ./my-script.sh or . ./my-script.sh, the shebang (#!/bin/sh) will be completely ignored. This can be a problem when crossing between different shells.

    – Philip Couling
    10 hours ago







    @TranTriet Also be aware that running a script with bash ./my-script.sh or . ./my-script.sh, the shebang (#!/bin/sh) will be completely ignored. This can be a problem when crossing between different shells.

    – Philip Couling
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    When you say source script.sh or . script.sh you are never executing the script. What you are running is a shell command source which does something. This "something" includes reading from script.sh and executing what-has-been-read. Your script needs to be readable for this. No need for executability.



    The behaviour is similar to running bash non-executable-script.sh or python non-executable-script.py etc.






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      When you say source script.sh or . script.sh you are never executing the script. What you are running is a shell command source which does something. This "something" includes reading from script.sh and executing what-has-been-read. Your script needs to be readable for this. No need for executability.



      The behaviour is similar to running bash non-executable-script.sh or python non-executable-script.py etc.






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        When you say source script.sh or . script.sh you are never executing the script. What you are running is a shell command source which does something. This "something" includes reading from script.sh and executing what-has-been-read. Your script needs to be readable for this. No need for executability.



        The behaviour is similar to running bash non-executable-script.sh or python non-executable-script.py etc.






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        When you say source script.sh or . script.sh you are never executing the script. What you are running is a shell command source which does something. This "something" includes reading from script.sh and executing what-has-been-read. Your script needs to be readable for this. No need for executability.



        The behaviour is similar to running bash non-executable-script.sh or python non-executable-script.py etc.







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