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A junior coworker of mine takes very long breaks every day. He is paid by the hour, leaves after 8 hours, and is not allowed to work from home, so I know he's not making the time up. He usually doesn't finish his work on time.



I've gone a long time not discussing this with him, but I'm now wondering if I should bring it up. (If it were me, I'd want a coworker to warn me.) He spends all this time in the restroom and there aren't enough stalls for this to not be a problem, so people are grumbling. I overheard his manager complain he's never at his desk, so it's been noticed.



I've casually mentioned to him before how he should try to limit his breaks, but he didn't really pay attention to me. Is it appropriate for me to be blunt and bring this up to him? One on hand, it would be better if he heard it from me before he got chewed out from my manager. But on the other hand, I really don't want to have this awkward conversation with him. What is the professional thing to do in this circumstance?










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    Didn't we see the other side of this question a few weeks ago, from an employee who was upset that a creepy coworker was recording how much time he spent in the bathroom?

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  • Are you sure that Hans doesn't have some medical issue he is taking care of that requires these breaks? Also, how does this concern you?

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A junior coworker of mine takes very long breaks every day. He is paid by the hour, leaves after 8 hours, and is not allowed to work from home, so I know he's not making the time up. He usually doesn't finish his work on time.



I've gone a long time not discussing this with him, but I'm now wondering if I should bring it up. (If it were me, I'd want a coworker to warn me.) He spends all this time in the restroom and there aren't enough stalls for this to not be a problem, so people are grumbling. I overheard his manager complain he's never at his desk, so it's been noticed.



I've casually mentioned to him before how he should try to limit his breaks, but he didn't really pay attention to me. Is it appropriate for me to be blunt and bring this up to him? One on hand, it would be better if he heard it from me before he got chewed out from my manager. But on the other hand, I really don't want to have this awkward conversation with him. What is the professional thing to do in this circumstance?










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    Didn't we see the other side of this question a few weeks ago, from an employee who was upset that a creepy coworker was recording how much time he spent in the bathroom?

    – R..
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  • Are you sure that Hans doesn't have some medical issue he is taking care of that requires these breaks? Also, how does this concern you?

    – Seth R
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A junior coworker of mine takes very long breaks every day. He is paid by the hour, leaves after 8 hours, and is not allowed to work from home, so I know he's not making the time up. He usually doesn't finish his work on time.



I've gone a long time not discussing this with him, but I'm now wondering if I should bring it up. (If it were me, I'd want a coworker to warn me.) He spends all this time in the restroom and there aren't enough stalls for this to not be a problem, so people are grumbling. I overheard his manager complain he's never at his desk, so it's been noticed.



I've casually mentioned to him before how he should try to limit his breaks, but he didn't really pay attention to me. Is it appropriate for me to be blunt and bring this up to him? One on hand, it would be better if he heard it from me before he got chewed out from my manager. But on the other hand, I really don't want to have this awkward conversation with him. What is the professional thing to do in this circumstance?










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A junior coworker of mine takes very long breaks every day. He is paid by the hour, leaves after 8 hours, and is not allowed to work from home, so I know he's not making the time up. He usually doesn't finish his work on time.



I've gone a long time not discussing this with him, but I'm now wondering if I should bring it up. (If it were me, I'd want a coworker to warn me.) He spends all this time in the restroom and there aren't enough stalls for this to not be a problem, so people are grumbling. I overheard his manager complain he's never at his desk, so it's been noticed.



I've casually mentioned to him before how he should try to limit his breaks, but he didn't really pay attention to me. Is it appropriate for me to be blunt and bring this up to him? One on hand, it would be better if he heard it from me before he got chewed out from my manager. But on the other hand, I really don't want to have this awkward conversation with him. What is the professional thing to do in this circumstance?







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    Didn't we see the other side of this question a few weeks ago, from an employee who was upset that a creepy coworker was recording how much time he spent in the bathroom?

    – R..
    3 hours ago











  • Are you sure that Hans doesn't have some medical issue he is taking care of that requires these breaks? Also, how does this concern you?

    – Seth R
    2 hours ago














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    Didn't we see the other side of this question a few weeks ago, from an employee who was upset that a creepy coworker was recording how much time he spent in the bathroom?

    – R..
    3 hours ago











  • Are you sure that Hans doesn't have some medical issue he is taking care of that requires these breaks? Also, how does this concern you?

    – Seth R
    2 hours ago








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Didn't we see the other side of this question a few weeks ago, from an employee who was upset that a creepy coworker was recording how much time he spent in the bathroom?

– R..
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Didn't we see the other side of this question a few weeks ago, from an employee who was upset that a creepy coworker was recording how much time he spent in the bathroom?

– R..
3 hours ago













Are you sure that Hans doesn't have some medical issue he is taking care of that requires these breaks? Also, how does this concern you?

– Seth R
2 hours ago





Are you sure that Hans doesn't have some medical issue he is taking care of that requires these breaks? Also, how does this concern you?

– Seth R
2 hours ago










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I can't believe I'm needing to even ask this question




You didn't.




A junior coworker of mine (lets call him Hans) is pretty immature. Hans will spend over an hour at a time going to the bathroom every day




Not sure what going to the bathroom has to do with maturity? Perhaps Hans has a medical condition. What business is that of yours? Is Hans really the immature one?




And if you're wondering, yes, I timed it.




Stop doing that, right now.




Now I notice it every day when he's in the bathroom.




Mind your own business, and focus on your own work.




He also usually doesn't finish his work on time.




Unless you're Hans's manager, this is — once again — none of your business.




I'm now wondering if I should bring it up




No.




I've casually mentioned to Hans before how he should try to limit his breaks (without mentioning I know how much time he spends in the bathroom), but he didn't really pay attention to me.




Of course he didn't. You're lucky he didn't report you for harassment. Don't do that again.




Is it appropriate for me to be blunt and bring this up to him?




No.




One on hand, it would be better if he heard it from me before he got chewed out from my manager.




No. Only your manager should be discussing things like this with him.




But on the other hand, I really don't want to have this awkward conversation with him.




Good, don't.




What is the professional thing to do in this circumstance?




Stopping literally everything you're doing about it at the moment.



Get on with your work.






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  • Pretty much the same as my answer, but you put it so much better. +1

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You have already warned him and it appears he has ignored you.



If you warn him again, then the manager talks to him - he may associate that as your fault and be annoyed at you.



I had a similar situation about a more serious issue and warned a colleague ... who did not listen, eventually management fired him...



You have been a friend and told him, stay out of it now.






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    Your manager is (I hope) trained on how to have these embarrassing conversations and how to suggest a change in behavior or accommodate a medical situation. You are not trained (imagine if he suddenly revealed medical details to you) and have no authority to offer accommodations or demand a change of ways. Leave the managing to the manager and cheer up your coworker afterwards if he is left upset by the conversation.



    You've mentioned it once. Chances are others have too. At this point, the situation is not going to change due to coworker nudges.






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      Maybe give him a friendly heads up that you overheard the manager talking about it, but keep the emphasis on friendly. Generally speaking, the bathroom habits of your colleagues are none of your business so put the emphasis on him being away from the desk without bringing up the toilet.



      It's worth bearing in mind that there are medical conditions that require spending an above-average amount of time on the toilet, and the people who suffer from them generally don't want to talk about them.



      Whatever you do, don't let him know that you've been timing his breaks. That'll just make you come over like a creepy stalker and you could find yourself being the one on the receiving end of a warning over it.






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      • +1 for mentioning "creepy."

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        4 hours ago






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        Indeed. Someone was on here a few weeks ago complaining about a total weirdo who kept track of bathroom breaks. Wondering whether there's a connection. I'm also wondering whether both posts are an elaborate troll of some kind...

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        @LightnessRacesinOrbit indeed, I wonder if they are in the same office. To add to the answer, if that bathroom reason is any kind of disability, that is an area of law where one should not bungle around carelessly.

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      • You might say that you should wash your hands of the matter and move on. :)

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      First, this is potentially an issue with ADA, Unruh or your jurisdiction's equivalent laws that protect persons with disabilities or medical conditions. As such, anything remotely related to medical or disabilities must be handled in compliance with relevant laws and with the utmost sensitivity.



      What's more, there are things you may not know, that you should not know, or may not be allowed to know. If you had a horrible injury or disease that required you to spend an hour a day giving yourself injections or dealing with a colostomy bag or doing infusion or dialysis or something, you might be really private about it and really wouldn't want your privacy invaded by your coworkers. So pause to realize that invading his privacy, itself, is a grave violence against him.



      It is possible that the employee has already disclosed this to HR, and the issue is understood by them, and you didn't get the memo because you don't have any right.



      On the other hand, maybe he's in there playing Candy Crush, but ADA is such a legal minefield that you must assume worst case.



      So let's be clear on this point: the topic of bathroom activity is 110% totally out of bounds here. You cannot raise his absence issue in any way which could possibly relate to his use of the bathroom. Since you believe you know where he goes, do not ask him where he goes. That can come to no good.



      That said, two things are fair game.



      First, you can state concern about his frequent absences, assuming that you have no earthly idea where he goes. In fact, telling him "the boss was looking for you, and he's annoyed to not find you" is a decent "watching your bro's back" thing that I recommend.



      Second, you can use all the standard/normal methods to deal with the anonymous individual hogging the stall. General protocols are first, immediately make your presence known by pulling on the locked door audibly (but don't overpower a stall's latch, obviously). Then after about 10 seconds, knock; that puts the person on notice to wrap up. Proper response is "just a sec" and quick wrap-up. Then every minute or so, knock more firmly and say "Come on!" Or other statements expressing urgency with ever-increasing obnoxiousness. Nobody has a right to tie up a stall for 20 minutes, so it's "gloves off" when dealing through the door with this anonymous person. If there's no response after 5 minutes, presume medical emergency and get a supervisor with a key.






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      I can't believe I'm needing to even ask this question




      You didn't.




      A junior coworker of mine (lets call him Hans) is pretty immature. Hans will spend over an hour at a time going to the bathroom every day




      Not sure what going to the bathroom has to do with maturity? Perhaps Hans has a medical condition. What business is that of yours? Is Hans really the immature one?




      And if you're wondering, yes, I timed it.




      Stop doing that, right now.




      Now I notice it every day when he's in the bathroom.




      Mind your own business, and focus on your own work.




      He also usually doesn't finish his work on time.




      Unless you're Hans's manager, this is — once again — none of your business.




      I'm now wondering if I should bring it up




      No.




      I've casually mentioned to Hans before how he should try to limit his breaks (without mentioning I know how much time he spends in the bathroom), but he didn't really pay attention to me.




      Of course he didn't. You're lucky he didn't report you for harassment. Don't do that again.




      Is it appropriate for me to be blunt and bring this up to him?




      No.




      One on hand, it would be better if he heard it from me before he got chewed out from my manager.




      No. Only your manager should be discussing things like this with him.




      But on the other hand, I really don't want to have this awkward conversation with him.




      Good, don't.




      What is the professional thing to do in this circumstance?




      Stopping literally everything you're doing about it at the moment.



      Get on with your work.






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      • Pretty much the same as my answer, but you put it so much better. +1

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      I can't believe I'm needing to even ask this question




      You didn't.




      A junior coworker of mine (lets call him Hans) is pretty immature. Hans will spend over an hour at a time going to the bathroom every day




      Not sure what going to the bathroom has to do with maturity? Perhaps Hans has a medical condition. What business is that of yours? Is Hans really the immature one?




      And if you're wondering, yes, I timed it.




      Stop doing that, right now.




      Now I notice it every day when he's in the bathroom.




      Mind your own business, and focus on your own work.




      He also usually doesn't finish his work on time.




      Unless you're Hans's manager, this is — once again — none of your business.




      I'm now wondering if I should bring it up




      No.




      I've casually mentioned to Hans before how he should try to limit his breaks (without mentioning I know how much time he spends in the bathroom), but he didn't really pay attention to me.




      Of course he didn't. You're lucky he didn't report you for harassment. Don't do that again.




      Is it appropriate for me to be blunt and bring this up to him?




      No.




      One on hand, it would be better if he heard it from me before he got chewed out from my manager.




      No. Only your manager should be discussing things like this with him.




      But on the other hand, I really don't want to have this awkward conversation with him.




      Good, don't.




      What is the professional thing to do in this circumstance?




      Stopping literally everything you're doing about it at the moment.



      Get on with your work.






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        Pragmatic and well-deservedly blunt. Plus uno.

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      • Pretty much the same as my answer, but you put it so much better. +1

        – Matthew Barber
        2 hours ago














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      I can't believe I'm needing to even ask this question




      You didn't.




      A junior coworker of mine (lets call him Hans) is pretty immature. Hans will spend over an hour at a time going to the bathroom every day




      Not sure what going to the bathroom has to do with maturity? Perhaps Hans has a medical condition. What business is that of yours? Is Hans really the immature one?




      And if you're wondering, yes, I timed it.




      Stop doing that, right now.




      Now I notice it every day when he's in the bathroom.




      Mind your own business, and focus on your own work.




      He also usually doesn't finish his work on time.




      Unless you're Hans's manager, this is — once again — none of your business.




      I'm now wondering if I should bring it up




      No.




      I've casually mentioned to Hans before how he should try to limit his breaks (without mentioning I know how much time he spends in the bathroom), but he didn't really pay attention to me.




      Of course he didn't. You're lucky he didn't report you for harassment. Don't do that again.




      Is it appropriate for me to be blunt and bring this up to him?




      No.




      One on hand, it would be better if he heard it from me before he got chewed out from my manager.




      No. Only your manager should be discussing things like this with him.




      But on the other hand, I really don't want to have this awkward conversation with him.




      Good, don't.




      What is the professional thing to do in this circumstance?




      Stopping literally everything you're doing about it at the moment.



      Get on with your work.






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      I can't believe I'm needing to even ask this question




      You didn't.




      A junior coworker of mine (lets call him Hans) is pretty immature. Hans will spend over an hour at a time going to the bathroom every day




      Not sure what going to the bathroom has to do with maturity? Perhaps Hans has a medical condition. What business is that of yours? Is Hans really the immature one?




      And if you're wondering, yes, I timed it.




      Stop doing that, right now.




      Now I notice it every day when he's in the bathroom.




      Mind your own business, and focus on your own work.




      He also usually doesn't finish his work on time.




      Unless you're Hans's manager, this is — once again — none of your business.




      I'm now wondering if I should bring it up




      No.




      I've casually mentioned to Hans before how he should try to limit his breaks (without mentioning I know how much time he spends in the bathroom), but he didn't really pay attention to me.




      Of course he didn't. You're lucky he didn't report you for harassment. Don't do that again.




      Is it appropriate for me to be blunt and bring this up to him?




      No.




      One on hand, it would be better if he heard it from me before he got chewed out from my manager.




      No. Only your manager should be discussing things like this with him.




      But on the other hand, I really don't want to have this awkward conversation with him.




      Good, don't.




      What is the professional thing to do in this circumstance?




      Stopping literally everything you're doing about it at the moment.



      Get on with your work.







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      • 5





        Pragmatic and well-deservedly blunt. Plus uno.

        – Mateen Ulhaq
        3 hours ago













      • Pretty much the same as my answer, but you put it so much better. +1

        – Matthew Barber
        2 hours ago














      • 5





        Pragmatic and well-deservedly blunt. Plus uno.

        – Mateen Ulhaq
        3 hours ago













      • Pretty much the same as my answer, but you put it so much better. +1

        – Matthew Barber
        2 hours ago








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      Pragmatic and well-deservedly blunt. Plus uno.

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      Pragmatic and well-deservedly blunt. Plus uno.

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      Pretty much the same as my answer, but you put it so much better. +1

      – Matthew Barber
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      Pretty much the same as my answer, but you put it so much better. +1

      – Matthew Barber
      2 hours ago













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      You have already warned him and it appears he has ignored you.



      If you warn him again, then the manager talks to him - he may associate that as your fault and be annoyed at you.



      I had a similar situation about a more serious issue and warned a colleague ... who did not listen, eventually management fired him...



      You have been a friend and told him, stay out of it now.






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        You have already warned him and it appears he has ignored you.



        If you warn him again, then the manager talks to him - he may associate that as your fault and be annoyed at you.



        I had a similar situation about a more serious issue and warned a colleague ... who did not listen, eventually management fired him...



        You have been a friend and told him, stay out of it now.






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          You have already warned him and it appears he has ignored you.



          If you warn him again, then the manager talks to him - he may associate that as your fault and be annoyed at you.



          I had a similar situation about a more serious issue and warned a colleague ... who did not listen, eventually management fired him...



          You have been a friend and told him, stay out of it now.






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          You have already warned him and it appears he has ignored you.



          If you warn him again, then the manager talks to him - he may associate that as your fault and be annoyed at you.



          I had a similar situation about a more serious issue and warned a colleague ... who did not listen, eventually management fired him...



          You have been a friend and told him, stay out of it now.







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              Your manager is (I hope) trained on how to have these embarrassing conversations and how to suggest a change in behavior or accommodate a medical situation. You are not trained (imagine if he suddenly revealed medical details to you) and have no authority to offer accommodations or demand a change of ways. Leave the managing to the manager and cheer up your coworker afterwards if he is left upset by the conversation.



              You've mentioned it once. Chances are others have too. At this point, the situation is not going to change due to coworker nudges.






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                Your manager is (I hope) trained on how to have these embarrassing conversations and how to suggest a change in behavior or accommodate a medical situation. You are not trained (imagine if he suddenly revealed medical details to you) and have no authority to offer accommodations or demand a change of ways. Leave the managing to the manager and cheer up your coworker afterwards if he is left upset by the conversation.



                You've mentioned it once. Chances are others have too. At this point, the situation is not going to change due to coworker nudges.






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                  Your manager is (I hope) trained on how to have these embarrassing conversations and how to suggest a change in behavior or accommodate a medical situation. You are not trained (imagine if he suddenly revealed medical details to you) and have no authority to offer accommodations or demand a change of ways. Leave the managing to the manager and cheer up your coworker afterwards if he is left upset by the conversation.



                  You've mentioned it once. Chances are others have too. At this point, the situation is not going to change due to coworker nudges.






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                  Your manager is (I hope) trained on how to have these embarrassing conversations and how to suggest a change in behavior or accommodate a medical situation. You are not trained (imagine if he suddenly revealed medical details to you) and have no authority to offer accommodations or demand a change of ways. Leave the managing to the manager and cheer up your coworker afterwards if he is left upset by the conversation.



                  You've mentioned it once. Chances are others have too. At this point, the situation is not going to change due to coworker nudges.







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                      Maybe give him a friendly heads up that you overheard the manager talking about it, but keep the emphasis on friendly. Generally speaking, the bathroom habits of your colleagues are none of your business so put the emphasis on him being away from the desk without bringing up the toilet.



                      It's worth bearing in mind that there are medical conditions that require spending an above-average amount of time on the toilet, and the people who suffer from them generally don't want to talk about them.



                      Whatever you do, don't let him know that you've been timing his breaks. That'll just make you come over like a creepy stalker and you could find yourself being the one on the receiving end of a warning over it.






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                      • +1 for mentioning "creepy."

                        – Kent A.
                        4 hours ago






                      • 5





                        Indeed. Someone was on here a few weeks ago complaining about a total weirdo who kept track of bathroom breaks. Wondering whether there's a connection. I'm also wondering whether both posts are an elaborate troll of some kind...

                        – Lightness Races in Orbit
                        3 hours ago






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                        @LightnessRacesinOrbit indeed, I wonder if they are in the same office. To add to the answer, if that bathroom reason is any kind of disability, that is an area of law where one should not bungle around carelessly.

                        – Harper
                        3 hours ago













                      • You might say that you should wash your hands of the matter and move on. :)

                        – Matthew Barber
                        2 hours ago
















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                      Maybe give him a friendly heads up that you overheard the manager talking about it, but keep the emphasis on friendly. Generally speaking, the bathroom habits of your colleagues are none of your business so put the emphasis on him being away from the desk without bringing up the toilet.



                      It's worth bearing in mind that there are medical conditions that require spending an above-average amount of time on the toilet, and the people who suffer from them generally don't want to talk about them.



                      Whatever you do, don't let him know that you've been timing his breaks. That'll just make you come over like a creepy stalker and you could find yourself being the one on the receiving end of a warning over it.






                      share|improve this answer
























                      • +1 for mentioning "creepy."

                        – Kent A.
                        4 hours ago






                      • 5





                        Indeed. Someone was on here a few weeks ago complaining about a total weirdo who kept track of bathroom breaks. Wondering whether there's a connection. I'm also wondering whether both posts are an elaborate troll of some kind...

                        – Lightness Races in Orbit
                        3 hours ago






                      • 1





                        @LightnessRacesinOrbit indeed, I wonder if they are in the same office. To add to the answer, if that bathroom reason is any kind of disability, that is an area of law where one should not bungle around carelessly.

                        – Harper
                        3 hours ago













                      • You might say that you should wash your hands of the matter and move on. :)

                        – Matthew Barber
                        2 hours ago














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                      Maybe give him a friendly heads up that you overheard the manager talking about it, but keep the emphasis on friendly. Generally speaking, the bathroom habits of your colleagues are none of your business so put the emphasis on him being away from the desk without bringing up the toilet.



                      It's worth bearing in mind that there are medical conditions that require spending an above-average amount of time on the toilet, and the people who suffer from them generally don't want to talk about them.



                      Whatever you do, don't let him know that you've been timing his breaks. That'll just make you come over like a creepy stalker and you could find yourself being the one on the receiving end of a warning over it.






                      share|improve this answer













                      Maybe give him a friendly heads up that you overheard the manager talking about it, but keep the emphasis on friendly. Generally speaking, the bathroom habits of your colleagues are none of your business so put the emphasis on him being away from the desk without bringing up the toilet.



                      It's worth bearing in mind that there are medical conditions that require spending an above-average amount of time on the toilet, and the people who suffer from them generally don't want to talk about them.



                      Whatever you do, don't let him know that you've been timing his breaks. That'll just make you come over like a creepy stalker and you could find yourself being the one on the receiving end of a warning over it.







                      share|improve this answer












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                      • +1 for mentioning "creepy."

                        – Kent A.
                        4 hours ago






                      • 5





                        Indeed. Someone was on here a few weeks ago complaining about a total weirdo who kept track of bathroom breaks. Wondering whether there's a connection. I'm also wondering whether both posts are an elaborate troll of some kind...

                        – Lightness Races in Orbit
                        3 hours ago






                      • 1





                        @LightnessRacesinOrbit indeed, I wonder if they are in the same office. To add to the answer, if that bathroom reason is any kind of disability, that is an area of law where one should not bungle around carelessly.

                        – Harper
                        3 hours ago













                      • You might say that you should wash your hands of the matter and move on. :)

                        – Matthew Barber
                        2 hours ago



















                      • +1 for mentioning "creepy."

                        – Kent A.
                        4 hours ago






                      • 5





                        Indeed. Someone was on here a few weeks ago complaining about a total weirdo who kept track of bathroom breaks. Wondering whether there's a connection. I'm also wondering whether both posts are an elaborate troll of some kind...

                        – Lightness Races in Orbit
                        3 hours ago






                      • 1





                        @LightnessRacesinOrbit indeed, I wonder if they are in the same office. To add to the answer, if that bathroom reason is any kind of disability, that is an area of law where one should not bungle around carelessly.

                        – Harper
                        3 hours ago













                      • You might say that you should wash your hands of the matter and move on. :)

                        – Matthew Barber
                        2 hours ago

















                      +1 for mentioning "creepy."

                      – Kent A.
                      4 hours ago





                      +1 for mentioning "creepy."

                      – Kent A.
                      4 hours ago




                      5




                      5





                      Indeed. Someone was on here a few weeks ago complaining about a total weirdo who kept track of bathroom breaks. Wondering whether there's a connection. I'm also wondering whether both posts are an elaborate troll of some kind...

                      – Lightness Races in Orbit
                      3 hours ago





                      Indeed. Someone was on here a few weeks ago complaining about a total weirdo who kept track of bathroom breaks. Wondering whether there's a connection. I'm also wondering whether both posts are an elaborate troll of some kind...

                      – Lightness Races in Orbit
                      3 hours ago




                      1




                      1





                      @LightnessRacesinOrbit indeed, I wonder if they are in the same office. To add to the answer, if that bathroom reason is any kind of disability, that is an area of law where one should not bungle around carelessly.

                      – Harper
                      3 hours ago







                      @LightnessRacesinOrbit indeed, I wonder if they are in the same office. To add to the answer, if that bathroom reason is any kind of disability, that is an area of law where one should not bungle around carelessly.

                      – Harper
                      3 hours ago















                      You might say that you should wash your hands of the matter and move on. :)

                      – Matthew Barber
                      2 hours ago





                      You might say that you should wash your hands of the matter and move on. :)

                      – Matthew Barber
                      2 hours ago











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                      First, this is potentially an issue with ADA, Unruh or your jurisdiction's equivalent laws that protect persons with disabilities or medical conditions. As such, anything remotely related to medical or disabilities must be handled in compliance with relevant laws and with the utmost sensitivity.



                      What's more, there are things you may not know, that you should not know, or may not be allowed to know. If you had a horrible injury or disease that required you to spend an hour a day giving yourself injections or dealing with a colostomy bag or doing infusion or dialysis or something, you might be really private about it and really wouldn't want your privacy invaded by your coworkers. So pause to realize that invading his privacy, itself, is a grave violence against him.



                      It is possible that the employee has already disclosed this to HR, and the issue is understood by them, and you didn't get the memo because you don't have any right.



                      On the other hand, maybe he's in there playing Candy Crush, but ADA is such a legal minefield that you must assume worst case.



                      So let's be clear on this point: the topic of bathroom activity is 110% totally out of bounds here. You cannot raise his absence issue in any way which could possibly relate to his use of the bathroom. Since you believe you know where he goes, do not ask him where he goes. That can come to no good.



                      That said, two things are fair game.



                      First, you can state concern about his frequent absences, assuming that you have no earthly idea where he goes. In fact, telling him "the boss was looking for you, and he's annoyed to not find you" is a decent "watching your bro's back" thing that I recommend.



                      Second, you can use all the standard/normal methods to deal with the anonymous individual hogging the stall. General protocols are first, immediately make your presence known by pulling on the locked door audibly (but don't overpower a stall's latch, obviously). Then after about 10 seconds, knock; that puts the person on notice to wrap up. Proper response is "just a sec" and quick wrap-up. Then every minute or so, knock more firmly and say "Come on!" Or other statements expressing urgency with ever-increasing obnoxiousness. Nobody has a right to tie up a stall for 20 minutes, so it's "gloves off" when dealing through the door with this anonymous person. If there's no response after 5 minutes, presume medical emergency and get a supervisor with a key.






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                      • what are ADA and unruh ? Can't find easily something that seems related to your answer.

                        – Pac0
                        2 hours ago













                      • @pac0 links added.

                        – Harper
                        1 hour ago
















                      0














                      First, this is potentially an issue with ADA, Unruh or your jurisdiction's equivalent laws that protect persons with disabilities or medical conditions. As such, anything remotely related to medical or disabilities must be handled in compliance with relevant laws and with the utmost sensitivity.



                      What's more, there are things you may not know, that you should not know, or may not be allowed to know. If you had a horrible injury or disease that required you to spend an hour a day giving yourself injections or dealing with a colostomy bag or doing infusion or dialysis or something, you might be really private about it and really wouldn't want your privacy invaded by your coworkers. So pause to realize that invading his privacy, itself, is a grave violence against him.



                      It is possible that the employee has already disclosed this to HR, and the issue is understood by them, and you didn't get the memo because you don't have any right.



                      On the other hand, maybe he's in there playing Candy Crush, but ADA is such a legal minefield that you must assume worst case.



                      So let's be clear on this point: the topic of bathroom activity is 110% totally out of bounds here. You cannot raise his absence issue in any way which could possibly relate to his use of the bathroom. Since you believe you know where he goes, do not ask him where he goes. That can come to no good.



                      That said, two things are fair game.



                      First, you can state concern about his frequent absences, assuming that you have no earthly idea where he goes. In fact, telling him "the boss was looking for you, and he's annoyed to not find you" is a decent "watching your bro's back" thing that I recommend.



                      Second, you can use all the standard/normal methods to deal with the anonymous individual hogging the stall. General protocols are first, immediately make your presence known by pulling on the locked door audibly (but don't overpower a stall's latch, obviously). Then after about 10 seconds, knock; that puts the person on notice to wrap up. Proper response is "just a sec" and quick wrap-up. Then every minute or so, knock more firmly and say "Come on!" Or other statements expressing urgency with ever-increasing obnoxiousness. Nobody has a right to tie up a stall for 20 minutes, so it's "gloves off" when dealing through the door with this anonymous person. If there's no response after 5 minutes, presume medical emergency and get a supervisor with a key.






                      share|improve this answer


























                      • what are ADA and unruh ? Can't find easily something that seems related to your answer.

                        – Pac0
                        2 hours ago













                      • @pac0 links added.

                        – Harper
                        1 hour ago














                      0












                      0








                      0







                      First, this is potentially an issue with ADA, Unruh or your jurisdiction's equivalent laws that protect persons with disabilities or medical conditions. As such, anything remotely related to medical or disabilities must be handled in compliance with relevant laws and with the utmost sensitivity.



                      What's more, there are things you may not know, that you should not know, or may not be allowed to know. If you had a horrible injury or disease that required you to spend an hour a day giving yourself injections or dealing with a colostomy bag or doing infusion or dialysis or something, you might be really private about it and really wouldn't want your privacy invaded by your coworkers. So pause to realize that invading his privacy, itself, is a grave violence against him.



                      It is possible that the employee has already disclosed this to HR, and the issue is understood by them, and you didn't get the memo because you don't have any right.



                      On the other hand, maybe he's in there playing Candy Crush, but ADA is such a legal minefield that you must assume worst case.



                      So let's be clear on this point: the topic of bathroom activity is 110% totally out of bounds here. You cannot raise his absence issue in any way which could possibly relate to his use of the bathroom. Since you believe you know where he goes, do not ask him where he goes. That can come to no good.



                      That said, two things are fair game.



                      First, you can state concern about his frequent absences, assuming that you have no earthly idea where he goes. In fact, telling him "the boss was looking for you, and he's annoyed to not find you" is a decent "watching your bro's back" thing that I recommend.



                      Second, you can use all the standard/normal methods to deal with the anonymous individual hogging the stall. General protocols are first, immediately make your presence known by pulling on the locked door audibly (but don't overpower a stall's latch, obviously). Then after about 10 seconds, knock; that puts the person on notice to wrap up. Proper response is "just a sec" and quick wrap-up. Then every minute or so, knock more firmly and say "Come on!" Or other statements expressing urgency with ever-increasing obnoxiousness. Nobody has a right to tie up a stall for 20 minutes, so it's "gloves off" when dealing through the door with this anonymous person. If there's no response after 5 minutes, presume medical emergency and get a supervisor with a key.






                      share|improve this answer















                      First, this is potentially an issue with ADA, Unruh or your jurisdiction's equivalent laws that protect persons with disabilities or medical conditions. As such, anything remotely related to medical or disabilities must be handled in compliance with relevant laws and with the utmost sensitivity.



                      What's more, there are things you may not know, that you should not know, or may not be allowed to know. If you had a horrible injury or disease that required you to spend an hour a day giving yourself injections or dealing with a colostomy bag or doing infusion or dialysis or something, you might be really private about it and really wouldn't want your privacy invaded by your coworkers. So pause to realize that invading his privacy, itself, is a grave violence against him.



                      It is possible that the employee has already disclosed this to HR, and the issue is understood by them, and you didn't get the memo because you don't have any right.



                      On the other hand, maybe he's in there playing Candy Crush, but ADA is such a legal minefield that you must assume worst case.



                      So let's be clear on this point: the topic of bathroom activity is 110% totally out of bounds here. You cannot raise his absence issue in any way which could possibly relate to his use of the bathroom. Since you believe you know where he goes, do not ask him where he goes. That can come to no good.



                      That said, two things are fair game.



                      First, you can state concern about his frequent absences, assuming that you have no earthly idea where he goes. In fact, telling him "the boss was looking for you, and he's annoyed to not find you" is a decent "watching your bro's back" thing that I recommend.



                      Second, you can use all the standard/normal methods to deal with the anonymous individual hogging the stall. General protocols are first, immediately make your presence known by pulling on the locked door audibly (but don't overpower a stall's latch, obviously). Then after about 10 seconds, knock; that puts the person on notice to wrap up. Proper response is "just a sec" and quick wrap-up. Then every minute or so, knock more firmly and say "Come on!" Or other statements expressing urgency with ever-increasing obnoxiousness. Nobody has a right to tie up a stall for 20 minutes, so it's "gloves off" when dealing through the door with this anonymous person. If there's no response after 5 minutes, presume medical emergency and get a supervisor with a key.







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                      • what are ADA and unruh ? Can't find easily something that seems related to your answer.

                        – Pac0
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                      • @pac0 links added.

                        – Harper
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                      • what are ADA and unruh ? Can't find easily something that seems related to your answer.

                        – Pac0
                        2 hours ago













                      • @pac0 links added.

                        – Harper
                        1 hour ago

















                      what are ADA and unruh ? Can't find easily something that seems related to your answer.

                      – Pac0
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                      what are ADA and unruh ? Can't find easily something that seems related to your answer.

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